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		<title>By: Solo</title>
		<link>http://www.hammer86blog.com/2009/03/10/lr-15-minute-bathroom-pull/comment-page-1/#comment-486</link>
		<dc:creator>Solo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jun 2010 16:53:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Man this story is fucking hilarious especially the part about the bad breath

well done mate

Respect

Solo
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man this story is fucking hilarious especially the part about the bad breath</p>
<p>well done mate</p>
<p>Respect</p>
<p>Solo<br />
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		<title>By: gaiusuticensis</title>
		<link>http://www.hammer86blog.com/2009/03/10/lr-15-minute-bathroom-pull/comment-page-1/#comment-186</link>
		<dc:creator>gaiusuticensis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 22:17:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Respect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Respect.</p>
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		<title>By: The G Manifesto</title>
		<link>http://www.hammer86blog.com/2009/03/10/lr-15-minute-bathroom-pull/comment-page-1/#comment-185</link>
		<dc:creator>The G Manifesto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 02:29:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good story.

The Hard Rock in Las Vegas is one of the easiest places to swoop girls in the world.

I stopped going there a long time ago, it got too easy.

 - MPM</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good story.</p>
<p>The Hard Rock in Las Vegas is one of the easiest places to swoop girls in the world.</p>
<p>I stopped going there a long time ago, it got too easy.</p>
<p> &#8211; MPM</p>
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		<title>By: sandy</title>
		<link>http://www.hammer86blog.com/2009/03/10/lr-15-minute-bathroom-pull/comment-page-1/#comment-184</link>
		<dc:creator>sandy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 04:36:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey man MAD PROPS!

Ive read alot of stuff and done bootcamps and not happy with results...I read this and see this ELTopo is a good person  but I wonder how intense his 1 on 1 is?
hey you got a awesome result like a rookie going in for a windmill dunk at a slamdunk contest!
bravo kid bravo !
Good job! : )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey man MAD PROPS!</p>
<p>Ive read alot of stuff and done bootcamps and not happy with results&#8230;I read this and see this ELTopo is a good person  but I wonder how intense his 1 on 1 is?<br />
hey you got a awesome result like a rookie going in for a windmill dunk at a slamdunk contest!<br />
bravo kid bravo !<br />
Good job! : )</p>
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		<title>By: Hammer</title>
		<link>http://www.hammer86blog.com/2009/03/10/lr-15-minute-bathroom-pull/comment-page-1/#comment-183</link>
		<dc:creator>Hammer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 20:32:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yea man, that&#039;s just an example of a cold read ladder right there. You can do that literally off of the opener. &quot;Excuse me, sorry to interrupt, but I thought you were really cute and wanted to come talk to you. I&#039;m Hammer. What do you do?&quot;

There is so much more, I need to go back and look through it, but I&#039;ve already started to internalize some of the baiting. One thing that&#039;s interesting is that El Topo talks about going too far and recovering. So in the context of a story, you have a premise, then a sexual neg, then the meat of the story/recovery, and finish with a positive frame that&#039;s conducive to getting laid.

&quot;I used to have a job in sales and had to get really good at reading people. Like I can totally tell by the way you put on your makeup that like always have 5 things going on at once and you don&#039;t finish what you start... No it&#039;s cool, I don&#039;t judge. But yea, working in sales, you really need to be able to read people and anticipate their reactions so you don&#039;t misstep. Like with you I can tell that you&#039;re very emotionally aware... But the thing is, there&#039;s this other side of you; fuck I don&#039;t even think I want to know that side. Shit dude I should stay away you&#039;re probably going to try to pull out the whips and handcuffs from your closet! But come here let me ask you something...&quot;

This structure basically replaces most C&amp;F in El Topo&#039;s game and builds a much stronger attraction. As you transition into comfort you fractionate less and lower your voice tonality, but you maintain some of the baiting and check-ins. You want to put sexuality on the table early but then you can go away from it and with just your body language keep it sexual.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yea man, that&#8217;s just an example of a cold read ladder right there. You can do that literally off of the opener. &#8220;Excuse me, sorry to interrupt, but I thought you were really cute and wanted to come talk to you. I&#8217;m Hammer. What do you do?&#8221;</p>
<p>There is so much more, I need to go back and look through it, but I&#8217;ve already started to internalize some of the baiting. One thing that&#8217;s interesting is that El Topo talks about going too far and recovering. So in the context of a story, you have a premise, then a sexual neg, then the meat of the story/recovery, and finish with a positive frame that&#8217;s conducive to getting laid.</p>
<p>&#8220;I used to have a job in sales and had to get really good at reading people. Like I can totally tell by the way you put on your makeup that like always have 5 things going on at once and you don&#8217;t finish what you start&#8230; No it&#8217;s cool, I don&#8217;t judge. But yea, working in sales, you really need to be able to read people and anticipate their reactions so you don&#8217;t misstep. Like with you I can tell that you&#8217;re very emotionally aware&#8230; But the thing is, there&#8217;s this other side of you; fuck I don&#8217;t even think I want to know that side. Shit dude I should stay away you&#8217;re probably going to try to pull out the whips and handcuffs from your closet! But come here let me ask you something&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>This structure basically replaces most C&amp;F in El Topo&#8217;s game and builds a much stronger attraction. As you transition into comfort you fractionate less and lower your voice tonality, but you maintain some of the baiting and check-ins. You want to put sexuality on the table early but then you can go away from it and with just your body language keep it sexual.</p>
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		<title>By: Lance</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 19:18:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cool, good stuff there. I&#039;ve read a bunch of Topo&#039;s posts and always thought it was fascinating how precise and structured it was.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cool, good stuff there. I&#8217;ve read a bunch of Topo&#8217;s posts and always thought it was fascinating how precise and structured it was.</p>
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		<title>By: Hammer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hammer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 13:14:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He didn&#039;t teach me specific routines, as much as he taught me a couple of structures to storytelling that incorporates baiting, framing, push-pull, fractionating, and cold-read ladders among other things. Here&#039;s an example of something I just thought of off of the top of my head:

What do you do?
(girl answers)
Oh that&#039;s cool, but I can totally tell that you&#039;re a super independent type of girl.
(girl responds)
But I bet you weren&#039;t always that way. I bet that when you were younger you always wanted to be blond, maybe even dyed your hair for a while...
(girl responds)
No no no! It&#039;s cool, I don&#039;t judge! But then as you got older you totally went the other way and became proud of your brunette hair...
(girl responds)
But the thing is, even though you&#039;re super independent and career oriented in your professional life, I can tell that in your personal life you prefer when the guy takes control of the relationship.
(girl responds)
This always gets you into trouble though and you end up dating assholes.

This has a couple of easy cold reads that imply the third one is true. The third one is a strike at her core sexual identity, which will make her very comfortable with you. There&#039;s some great framing in here too. You frame yourself as non-judgmental, you frame her as independent, and you frame her as wanting you to lead the interaction, making her more likely to follow your directives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He didn&#8217;t teach me specific routines, as much as he taught me a couple of structures to storytelling that incorporates baiting, framing, push-pull, fractionating, and cold-read ladders among other things. Here&#8217;s an example of something I just thought of off of the top of my head:</p>
<p>What do you do?<br />
(girl answers)<br />
Oh that&#8217;s cool, but I can totally tell that you&#8217;re a super independent type of girl.<br />
(girl responds)<br />
But I bet you weren&#8217;t always that way. I bet that when you were younger you always wanted to be blond, maybe even dyed your hair for a while&#8230;<br />
(girl responds)<br />
No no no! It&#8217;s cool, I don&#8217;t judge! But then as you got older you totally went the other way and became proud of your brunette hair&#8230;<br />
(girl responds)<br />
But the thing is, even though you&#8217;re super independent and career oriented in your professional life, I can tell that in your personal life you prefer when the guy takes control of the relationship.<br />
(girl responds)<br />
This always gets you into trouble though and you end up dating assholes.</p>
<p>This has a couple of easy cold reads that imply the third one is true. The third one is a strike at her core sexual identity, which will make her very comfortable with you. There&#8217;s some great framing in here too. You frame yourself as non-judgmental, you frame her as independent, and you frame her as wanting you to lead the interaction, making her more likely to follow your directives.</p>
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		<title>By: Lance</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 02:08:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pretty cool. What exactly were some of the routines and stacking that Topo had you do?

I would have a hard time with a garlic breathed chick, for sure. Probably wouldn&#039;t be able to nail her.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pretty cool. What exactly were some of the routines and stacking that Topo had you do?</p>
<p>I would have a hard time with a garlic breathed chick, for sure. Probably wouldn&#8217;t be able to nail her.</p>
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		<title>By: Infinity</title>
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		<dc:creator>Infinity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 03:46:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good stuff, my man! El Topo taught you well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good stuff, my man! El Topo taught you well.</p>
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		<title>By: Hammer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hammer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 01:17:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course I used a condom... I carry two in my pocket at all times.</description>
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