Comments on: Soapbox Issue: Slut vs. Hedonist and Sexual Liborator Game

By: You like a slut? « stage two

You like a slut? « stage two — Sun, 22 Aug 2010 08:27:11 +0000

[...] selective. A woman who has experience, but no compulsion to jump random strangers. Hammer has some interesting thoughts along related lines on sluts versus hedonists and sexual-liberator [...]

By: Hammer

Hammer — Tue, 14 Jul 2009 14:03:45 +0000

Dude Savage, thanks for stopping by man. It was cool meeting you in Austin last weekend. Your lair talk on Friday was really quite amazing. I imagine that a lot of it might have gone over some guys heads, but I know that if I had heard that talk really early in my journey, it would have tremendously accelerated my success.

Savage is going to be giving this same talk at the Under 21 Convention, if you guys can make it, I suggest you do.

By: GoneSavage

GoneSavage — Tue, 14 Jul 2009 10:11:07 +0000

“But another byproduct of this game is that I do really poorly with insecure women who most average guys might do really well with. Whereas the typical guy will be giving her validation by buying her drinks and complimenting her all night until she goes home with him, I tend to freak her out early by teasing or pushing too hard sexually.”

Absolutely. The guy you described is misleading the insecure girl whether he knows it or not. He is on Path 2 (seeking casual sex) and may not know his actions are incongruent. She is likely on Path 1 (seeking more than casual sex, perhaps a relationship) and does not know her actions are incongruent.

When you come along consciously and deliberately stating that you are on Path 2, you will attract more intelligent, sexually liberated, and HSE girls.

Your article also reminded me of this bit by Jim Goad:

A slut, as commonly understood, is a girl who can wantonly have sex without attaching meaning to it. Sluts are thought to be like males in this respect. But except for the promiscuity part, all the sluts I’ve known before – and it’d take a calculator to tally them – embody the near-opposite of the stereotype. They attach more nonsexual importance to sex than the most romantic-minded ‘nice’ girl could ever conjure. I’ve known a few nice girls who can have sex simply for pleasure, but the sluts never seem to have sex for sex’s sake alone.

Every time they stick a big pink dick in their mouth, it’s almost as if they’re screaming PLEASE LOVE ME! into a microphone. Whatever it was that warped them – daddy’s cock, mommy’s backhand, or just a choking cloud of lovelessness and abandonment – left them with a bottomless hole in their heart and the unshakable notion that all they can offer to others is a pair of spread legs. They seek to fill one hole by constantly filling the other.

And over time, both holes get bigger.”

By: Benedict M. Smith

Benedict M. Smith — Mon, 13 Jul 2009 01:41:10 +0000

this is similar to my game, i frame it as “i do as i feel led” not that i’m impulsive…framing it as “you’re following your instincts” or “being who and what you want to be, rather than thinking about what you want etc”….sounds like we have similar game in some regards.

By: Honey

Honey — Wed, 08 Jul 2009 17:16:07 +0000

Great post! You don’t say it explicitly, but I think the fact that you *are* all the things that you’re going after (independent, intellectual, secure) is one of the reasons you do so well with that type of woman.

Though framing is important, too, that’s why I liked the BF. We were both in our mid-twenties, living by ourselves, pursuing terminal degrees in intellectually demanding fields, and willing to write off “relationships” that weren’t right for us (I’d been basically single for 4 years, he’d just ended a 4 relationship that he’d assumed would leave to marriage). POW! Sex together on the first date.

We’ve done golden showers, gone to live sex shows in Amsterdam, I’ve written explicit fictional stories, we’ve both written explicit letters detailing future fantasies…it’s pretty awesome stuff!